Calculation of the Focal Length
of an Offset Satellite Dish Antenna
by John A R Legon, B.Sc.
Given an offset satellite dish or antenna without LNB bracket or documentation, it is useful to be able to determine the focal point in order to establish where the feed or LNB should be located. It is generally believed that there is no simple solution to this problem, because the position of the origin or vertex of the parabolic curve isn't known. In fact, however, thanks to some analytical geometry and a little-known property of the parabola, an exact solution is possible using just three dimensions - the height and width of the dish, and the maximum depth.
A conventional offset dish appears roughly circular but is in fact slightly higher than it is wide, and the rim falls on a flat plane. The height and the width are easily measured and the maximum depth can be found with reference to a straight edge laid across the dish from top to bottom. Many modern offset dishes are shaped, however, in such a way that the height is less than the width. The necessary measurements cannot be taken directly but must be referred to an artificially constructed plane surface (see below).
As shown below, given these three dimensions of height, width and maximum depth, the focal length of the dish is given by the formula:
Focal length = (width ^ 3) / (16 * depth * height)
(Legon's equation for the focal length of an offset dish antenna)
The derivation of this formula depends on the fact that an offset dish antenna represents a plane section through a paraboloid of revolution. Such a section has the following significant properties:
1. Every plane section of a paraboloid of revolution, oblique to the axis of the surface, is an ellipse.
2. The orthogonal projection of that ellipse onto a plane at right angles to the axis of the surface is a circle.
It follows from these properties that the offset angle of the dish, which is the angle between the plane of the section and the plane orthogonal to the axis of revolution, can be calculated from the width and height of the elliptical rim:
cosine (offset angle) = width / height
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The properties of a parabola which make it possible to calculate the focal length of an offset dish when the point of origin of the curve isn't known are these:
1. A line drawn parallel to the axis of a parabola through the midpoint of any chord, intersects the parabola at a point where the tangent to the parabola is parallel to the chord.
2. At this point, the perpendicular distance to the chord is at a maximum.
This relationship between the slope of the chord and the gradient of the parabola is illustrated in the diagram below. The equation of the parabola is x = y2/ 4a, where 'a' is the focal length.
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In the following diagram, the point P has been given the coordinates (x,y), and the end points of the chord BT, with length 2d and midpoint P, are derived from the semi-length of the chord and the offset angle theta.
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Now calling the maximum depth of the dish curvature h, measured perpendicular to the chord, the depth parallel to the axis of the parabola will be h / cos(theta). The point of maximum depth, E, thus has the coordinates (x - h / cos(theta), y).
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To take a practical example, the appendix to
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4a.(X + Xo) = (Y + Yo)2
where Xo and Yo refer to the unknown position of the origin. Solving these equations gives a focal length of 282.89 mm.
My analysis reduces the problem to just one equation: width3 / (16 x depth x height) , so for this example we have:
focal length = 4603 / (16 x 43 x 500) = 282.95 mm
The result is thus in almost perfect agreement with that obtained by the solution of three simultaneous equations - the slight difference being due to the fact that the measurement given for the position of the point of maximum depth isn't strictly accurate. But as we have shown, it is isn't necessary to know this dimension.
Tto find the position of the origin or vertex of the paraboloid, the midpoint of our chord is at a distance from the axis of the parabola of y = 2.a.tan(theta) or 241 mm. But this point is also at a distance from the lower rim of the dish of d.cos(theta) = d.w / 2d = w / 2 =230 mm. This places the axis (241 - 230) = 11 mm outside the lower rim of the dish, as the solution of the quadratic equations for Yo also shows.
The Position of the LNB
It now remains to determine the correct position of the LNB or feed. This depends on the coordinates (Xo, Yo) of the bottom edge of the dish in relation to the vertex of the parabola at the point (0, 0). From the above discussion we have:
Yo = 2.a.tan (theta) - w / 2
and from the equation of the parabola:
Xo = Yo2 / 4.a
The following calculation makes use of the fact that every point on a parabola is the same distance from the focal point as it is from a line known as the directrix, which in the present case is a line drawn parallel to the y axis through the point (-a, 0), where 'a' is the focal length of the parabola.
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